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PostSubject: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-09, 05:39

@ihhub

After fheroes2 1.0, do you plan to add the ability to mod the game?

I would love to make some adjustments to the original game, change spell values, the growth of creatures, secondary skills, etc., that sort of thing.
And then add new secondary skills, new artifacts, new spells for artifacts (works like spell scrolls), etc.
All these changes would be optional with the possibility for players to choose which ones they want to apply, as is already possible in fheroes2.

All this in a simple way for non-programmers:
Add graphics files, sound files, etc. in a specific folder.
Add an .xml or other text file.
So all the necessary files.

And there you go...
The program takes care of integrating the additions. Smile

I already have a lot of ideas about this.
You can take a look at them if you are interested in these threads (titles start with [Unknown Mod]) in this forum.

Subsequently, I will transfer these ideas, some with some improvements and modifications, to the fheroes2 forum.

Also, is there a plan to externalize some data?
With the previous fheroes2 project, it was already possible to modify some values in .xml files.

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PostSubject: Re: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-12, 02:52

Frankly speaking we're very cautious about adding an ability to mod the game. In most cases it leads to a huge amount of low-level mods and the original game disappears between them. There are multiple debates about this. For example, H3 WOG gave such opportunity but the amount of options in the game is huge which is not good for an ordinary player. We definitely not going to do the same thing.

Many people have many opinions about the balance of the game and a vast amount of them want to modify here and there. We're planning to go by different route and create an add-on which brings something new to balance the game without touching the original game adjustments.

The correct way is to expand the event system in the game to certain level without an ability to change the core gameplay. In conclusion, we're still to far from 1.0 to decide the direction.

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PostSubject: Re: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-12, 10:06

I understand your point of view, but it's also a bit too bad to deprive the project of any good creativity, not all users are going to do crappy mods.
And nowadays, a lot of games have modding possibilities which make them more attractive.
People like to mod games to play them the way they want.

In any case, I will make proposals while waiting for Beyond 1.0 versions and discussions. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-12, 16:24

I'm not saying a no for modding but this will be our last priority so you should be patient Smile
Unknown_Hero wrote:
I understand your point of view, but it's also a bit too bad to deprive the project of any good creativity, not all users are going to do crappy mods.
And nowadays, a lot of games have modding possibilities which make them more attractive.
People like to mod games to play them the way they want.

In any case, I will make proposals while waiting for Beyond 1.0 versions and discussions. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-12, 16:56

I agree with both of us [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement 2551314513
I would enjoy to see some mods.
But I would hate to see many mods, especially mods with very few changes. I feel like it just divides the player base, because they don't play the same game anymore. [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement 1675887764

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PostSubject: Re: [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement   [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement Icon_minitime2020-08-12, 22:57

ihhub wrote:
I'm not saying a no for modding but this will be our last priority so you should be patient Smile

Yes I understand. Smile
And I'm sure you will do the best for the future of the game.
I will be patient. Very Happy

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I agree with both of us [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement 2551314513
I would enjoy to see some mods.
But I would hate to see many mods, especially mods with very few changes. I feel like it just divides the player base, because they don't play the same game anymore. [Beyond 1.0] Game Enhancement 1675887764

It could have a small section with the description of the different mods with the importance of the changes compared to the original version (version 1.0), and possibly the quality of realization of the mods.
This way, users know what to expect.
Mods bring changes that can extend the life of a game.
In the end, the important thing is that the players have fun playing the game. Smile

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