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PostSubject: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 06:58

I will put here everything that i draw. Suggestions and requests are welcome. (my time is sometimes very limited but w'ell see what can i do.
(polish/english)

This is fortified village - grass and swamp versions, what can we do in it? Maybe learn some defense or trade...
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 07:38

First post your other images, so you have everything in one place!

3 suggestions that might work in SWmod:

1)bigger well. Maybe big enough to grant bonus spellpoints! Or maybe a desacated/abandoned and broken well, that only gives 25%

2)bigger fire, think it would look cool! Or maybe another variant, like fire in a firepit/barrel ?

3)a shrine of magic thought. I really like this one in original Heroes 3 artstyle. You can find it above the monolith entrances. Its basically a book in the wind! Cant copy the file right now, but hope you know what i mean.

As for what you posted now, I like these villages a lot! they make the map seem busy hehe

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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 08:05

Hi Kantez,

some tips from me:

- Try to avoid drawing buildings without specific purpouse, it's easier to fit the building so it's purpose is known even before drawing than making good looking one and dont know what it can do.

- You should make them fit all types of terrain. So no grass because of desert/lava etc. Dirt is fine enough imo, or create separate ones for each terrain. It would be helpful to take screenshots of them (terrains) in map editor and then just place your work on top to see if it fits (also try to place other buildings next to it for style comparison).

- Use some outline, but it doesn't have to be always black, just a little darker (look at other dwellings for example at graphics thread).






You can try to draw school of magic (+1 for knowledge or power), because current one doesn't look good imo.


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PostSubject: Subject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 09:16

Better?
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Robizeratul - you wanted some book in the wind:)
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 20:32

Requested paesant hut tier 2:

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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-20, 22:10

I have some idea: Idea
In homm 3 we had redwood obserwatory. But no redwood forest.

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I coul'd make the special battlefield for it, inspired by the images below. (anyone recognize this old gem?)
That woul'd be something new.

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If you like it, i will need grass or dirt forest battlefield assets. 1 hex of ground, some obstacle sprite and full background, then i will see what can i do. Pixel Painting: Kantez 1617807164
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 00:59

Love those trees! I like the H3 observatory a lot mote than the H2 variant... peasent house looks cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 05:58

Nice work! Maybe add a few slimmer trees between the thicker ones to create more depth and variety?
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 20:46

I added few slimmer and shorter trees.
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Leaves color seems to don't fit to the grass theme, but on dirt or on its special sheet it shoul'd look good.
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 21:14

i forgot to add the observatory...
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 21:59

I dont like the idea of red-forest presented by you, it has too much copy and paste in it's looks and doesn't fit the style that much. Trees shouldn't be taller than mountains (though it's not a major problem) and colors should fit dirt and grass terrains if we would to even consider it at any point. Also spaces between trees seem too big.

Note that every object has passable and inpassable squares on it (and sometimes yellow, active one's like a mine for ex.)

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PS Don't bother about shadows, you'll get them wrong anyway and it's no problem for the team.
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PostSubject: Subject: Re: Kantez images.   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 22:39

This grid will be very helpful for my further works.
About redwood forest - what if i woul'd rescale it down to 2 squares, to fit the mountains. It can be recolored a little and whith more quality.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 22:41

You can try Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 23:43

Changed color, mached to the grid.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-21, 23:51

It can go 1 square above it like mountains do, hero will be partialy hidden then
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-22, 00:08

Done. 1 square above previous.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-22, 05:58

I preffer this variants:

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You have to make trees more diversified, both crowns and trunks. They also have to be matched to the grid on their bases. I think that they should stay that high, you shouldn't make them smaller, because then they no more look like a redwoods.
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-22, 20:59

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I checked how redwood look in real life, so i made more variations.
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Crown color should stay like this, it fits both grass and dirt, for swamp i can make diffrent ones with hanging moss, mushrooms and other swamp stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 01:25

I've made it more dense, and made a bit brighter version:

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But probably the current, darker version looks better:

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Eventually something between:
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 01:56

Pretty sure it needs intense HSBC treatment as well as changing the texture of tree bodies. Smile

Also, a nice option would be to check these near the already existing Heroes 2 trees. It could give a more clear idea what else to improve.

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Done. 1 square above previous.
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I actually like this variant more because it seems that they look more like Heroes1/Heroes 2.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 02:34

I would say more density and less contrast
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 20:04

Lets mix sh*t and see what happens...
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 21:46

This terrain will be included in 0.8?
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If yes and no one doing it, i could make battlefield graphics for it.
Based on this image:
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All i need is some example assets from alredy existing battlefield.
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PostSubject: Re: Pixel Painting: Kantez   Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-23, 23:53

No, it will not be in v0.8.

Terrains (from H2):
Dirt, Beach, Grass, Snow, Swamp, Desert, Wasteland, Lava, Water

No more, no less
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PostSubject: Re: Kantez images.    Pixel Painting: Kantez Icon_minitime2017-02-24, 00:14

Ok.
But still,  is there any objects that need to be drawed? If you have time, make a short list.
I'm sure that i will find time to draw.

And lets back to the redwod forest for a moment - is mixed version worth to be further edited?
You know, some people like 1st version, other say the 2nd is good. I like both so i mixed them.
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