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PostSubject: Communication   2018-02-08, 12:28

Hello boys,

I am very glad that I see the progress you are all making and that we are gonna have the SW mod in some time. However, I think that you really should reconsider your approach towards your audience. This forum is pretty much hidden to a lot of people. It's not that easy to find it and even here the news isn't presented as they could be.

I do not mean to offend you, I believe you put a lot of time and effort into this. I am just worried that your communication (especially on Facebook) is not what it should be. Your audience should always know what is being done, at what people work, how is the work being done. You don't have to announce deadlines, release dates or anything. Just keep us (or them ^^) know, how the project stands. It's ok to know that it will take some time, it's ok to know that nobody has time to work on the project, but it's really bad if people don't have any information.

I hope I might contribute this project in some way. I am more than willing to help you improve your communication so don't hesitate to contact me. I can also help with testing. I want to help you guys, it's just I can't do anything connected to graphics, design or scripting Embarassed

Think of this only as about constructive critique and feedback from an interested fan. Good luck with everything and thanks for your time!
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-02-09, 02:34

Hello and welcome to Forums of Enroth!

You are not the first to express a particular point of view concerning the promotion of our info sources. However, sometimes people just can see only things which are on the surface.

There is a particular reason why we don't promote (yet) this forum as well as other resources: we don't have a stable release. I don't have time for chatting like I did 3,4,5 years ago. If someone will be able to help with Facebook posts, it's good, but everything makes sense only after we have a game to play. For now, only the team does, and it's not yet ready.

In the nearest future, things will change.

Hope you understand my point. It's fun to read comments and stuff, but 99+% of modding projects are vaporware, meaning that they are just pretty images with positive comments. We are different, and this is why I'd like to save my time for the actual work.

The new update on Facebook should have been posted already, but unfortunately I am deadly busy until 9-10th of February, so I cannot start the closed beta test yet. After that time, the test will be started regardless if we fix the creature banks/dragon upgrades/dervish dwellings/heretic generation/whatever, pretty images included.

P.S. PhD education sucks. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-02-09, 03:08

Thanks for a warm welcome,

I completely understand this. I was part of several HoMaM and Warcraft III modding communities and I've invested quite some time in these projects.

That's why I believe I can understand how you are feeling about this, but also what you might be missing. It does not matter, that you do not have the release date.

The important thing here is to let people know, that project is not dead. The more you promote, the more people get interested, therefore new people might come and help you to finish the project or provide you with useful feedback.

Without any information, of course, we see things only on the surface. That is another helpful aspect of a good PR - you can explain your audience what is going on and why the project is at this particular stage of development.

As I stated above, I am more than willing to help you with your communication. You can PM me if you decide that you want to give me a try =)

P.S. Yeah, I can't imagine. Just my bachelor is giving me some hard time right now  lol
P.P.S. I want Czech Sorceress hero flag =( =D
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-02-09, 04:05

Wayshan wrote:
P.P.S. I want Czech Sorceress hero flag =( =D
Czech Sorceress

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-02-10, 07:14

GodRage, my hero! Oh man, I freakin love you!! <3  ... &lt;3

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-03-03, 06:24

YhyJasne wrote:
well... what is left to do before the beta?
also, the search feature doesn't work on the forums.
To call the beta stable, we need to fix the critical bug EIP = 0x220076F1, which also exists in older 2013 beta and is probably caused by some ERM scripts. Currently I am working on it.

Also, artifact effects and creature banks need to be fixed to some extent. The latter should be easy.
Also, there are the 3 Dragon upgrades (critical) and Heretic which still sometimes appears in the game (not that critical).
It is also very desireable that we have an install-and-play version of the mod, so the creation of the installer will take some time.

When it's done, the game is technically ready for the release.

I also need to provide the brand new design of the Dervish townscreen for promotional purposes. This will be my primary goal after we finally deal with the abovementioned crash.
I also need to finish the Mod Database design prior to the release with the help of GodRage.

So, these are the only things in plans for now. We could fix more, but we are exhausted, and I cannot improve Harpy or Toad without any help from outside because of that reason. So, probably, these fixes are postponed to v0.9. The game is more than playable even with the current situation anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW General Discussion   2018-03-03, 10:26

Orzie wrote:
I also need to finish the Mod Database design prior to the release with the help of GodRage.
I don't know what delay there will be between our "moddb css request" and their approval. I would say less than 1 week if they accept it directly. (but if they ask us to modify something... like "less images" or whatever.. )

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