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PostSubject: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-22, 09:25

Why not make available on the site a zip file regrouping all the maps made for Heroes 2 since the dawn of time (and another one for Heroes 1)?

We will name it the "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP". Laughing

Mom: "No, you are not going to play this game again!!! Heroes 2, what a name!!!"
Heroes 2 hardcore gamer: "But mummy, I just want to download the "MYP"."
Mom: "Oh my sweet love, I'm so happy that you take your future seriously."
Heroes 2 hardcore gamer: "Yes mum, you got it, "MYP" is everything!"

One day, I will list all the Heroes 1 and Heroes 2 maps I have.

Also, look at the introduce yourself thread, many of users have made maps or they wish to make maps.
They should be encouraged to upload their maps, and with a simple way to do it. Smile

The "Forums of Enroth" site must become the mandatory crossing point for every Heroes 1 and Heroes 2 player who respect himself. Cool

Don't be shy, show your maps to the world!!!
Don't be selfish, share your maps!!!

***** Updated on March 2, 2017 *****

Enroth want you!!!!! Very Happy

The maps are ready to be listed!!!
Any help is welcome!!! Smile

If you wish to participate, please reserve the available files by selecting one or more letters (see below), and indicate it in this thread.

When you have chosen the letter(s) of the files, a link to a zip file will be added in this post so that you can download it.
The zip file will contain only the maps with the letter(s) chosen, a temporary version of the MYP (working version), and a calc file to fill as indicated below.

When you have finished entering the data in the calc file and all the maps are segregated in their respective folders, archive them in a zip file and post a link in this thread so we can download your completed calc file and the filled MYP.

If you have maps that are not yet in the list, you can also archive them in a zip file and indicate a link in this thread so that we can download them.

Thanks for your help!!! <3  ... &lt;3

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For better compatibility, all tasks must be performed with Heroes 2 Gold English version (EDITOR2W.EXE ver 2.1 and HEROES2W.EXE ver 2.1) for Windows.

Naming convention.

Naming convention:
 

Suggested procedure.

Suggested procedure:
 

Screenshot of the minimap.

Minimap:
 

If you wish to participate, choose the maps you want to work on (categories by letter).

Here is the latest (20170301) list of all Heroes 2 base maps files for the MYP.

Choose the maps:
 

The Heroes 2 MYP database (work in progress):

Heroes 2 MYP database:
 

The Heroes 2 MYP tree (work in progress):

MYP tree:
 

There will be the MYP for Heroes 1, the MYP for Heroes 2 and the MYP for Ironfist (what a pleasure to see this one since birth). Very Happy

And the ultimate archive containing them all: the Master Googol Maps!!! Smile

Aka the "MGM" from the FoE. Razz

The bored guy: "What will I watch as a movie tonight?"
The same bored guy: "Bof, nothing exceptional!"
The man suddenly delighted: "And if I looked at what MGM has to offer?"

MYP for Heroes 2.
Status: Work in progress.

MYP for Heroes 1.
Status: Stay tuned!

MYP for Ironfist.
Status: Stay tuned!

MGM for Enroth.
Status: Stay tuned!


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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-22, 10:52

It's seems to be a pretty cool idea Smile By contrast to the H3, the number of maps published for a H2 and H1 should be countable, I think that around 1000-1500. It will be easy to gather all the maps together, but most of them are not top quality, so we shouldn't forget about fishing the pearls and putting them in a visible place.

Btw, what is "Monster Yotta" Question

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-22, 11:44

Better than the Monster Mega Pack!!!
Better than the Monster Giga Pack!!!
Better than the Monster Tera Pack!!!
Better than the Monster Peta Pack!!!
Better than...

Here comes the Monster Yotta Pack!!! Laughing

Aka the "MYP" from the FoE. Razz

It means everything ever made for Heroes 2.

And yes, the files can be listed in different folders.

Anything you want, you got it. <3  ... &lt;3
Anything you need, you got it. <3  ... &lt;3
Anything at all, you got it. <3  ... &lt;3
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-22, 17:15

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The "Forums of Enroth" site must become the mandatory crossing point for every Heroes 1 and Heroes 2 player who respect himself.

True. I don't see any reasons why such map pack shouldn't exist. There should be also a division by languages: some maps for example are Russian and thus barely playable for non-Russian speakers.

Don't forget to check the largest source of maps of Russian community.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-22, 17:44

Lands of Enroth.
http://homm2.free.fr/enroth.php?p=maps&go=en

I made few packs with all the Heroes 2 maps available on internet in 2011.
So it's not up to date anymore but... It's taking a freaking long time. And there is maps uploaded on différents websites with différents names... maps being translated to others languages... (russian maps makes my french PoL crashing xD)

So if you plan to just download and zip...I guess it's the responsibility of each "major" maps's websites to propose by them-self a zip with all the maps for each HoMM. Smile

And so, with a biiiig pack, how should we organise it?
By size? By language? By date?
There is a lot to think before starting this idea. Razz

And also, to make the pack "enjoyable", we must delete all the shitty maps that has been half made or so. ^^

Long project. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-23, 00:41

Basic tree could look like this:

We shouldn't remove any maps, just move  some of them to the directory "unfinished maps". We can even create a third folder "maps based on a map generator". I know some people who like to play such stuff Razz

In the main directory we've got folders for a specific languages. We can divide them further, e.g. by size or by names, but for the first version it should be enough. Later we can also think about adding a minimap for all these maps.

Maybe someone know, if it is possible to add details to the files in Windows? Something like Author, Last modified, Length. We can add under such labels additional info, for example number of players and size of a map, but it looks like it's available only for images, videos and music.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-23, 06:18

Concerning the different languages, it would be really nice to translate them at least in English. Smile

Orzie wrote:
Don't forget to check the largest source of maps of Russian community.

Yes, great site, I am up to date with the maps on this site.

Badly designed maps are also useful.
The player can look at them and think: "What the heck, I can do better than this!", and he can become a great well-known mapmaker. Laughing

Yes, some maps have info from the authors, they should be available.
I think a specific folder for each category with a text file for each map should do the job.

"Même si l'escalier semble immense, monter les marches une par une permet d'arriver au sommet." Le Héros Inconnu, le 22 février 2017. Razz
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"Even if the staircase seems immense, climbing the steps one by one makes it possible to reach the summit." The Unknown Hero, February 22, 2017.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-23, 09:43

If someone will find time, we can prepare a database, containing all the maps, making looking for a specific maps easier:



EDIT: I think that we should put maps with 'readme" in a zip file, because most of them is just called "readme" Razz The rest can be put as they're.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-23, 17:25

Uhm wrote:
EDIT: I think that we should put maps with 'readme" in a zip file, because most of them is just called "readme" Razz The rest can be put as they're.

I don't think so, it's a real pain to use when it's done this way. Evil or Very Mad
I am doing a list of my maps, and I have already climbed the stairs several times because of this. Razz

All files related to a specific map should be renamed with the name of the map included in their names, and can even be merged in a single file.

An example with Enroth.mp2:

[Monster Yotta Pack]\[Playable maps]\[English]\[Succession Wars]\[L]\

Enroth.mp2

[Monster Yotta Pack]\[Playable maps]\[English]\[Succession Wars]\Map Files\

Enroth journal.txt
Enroth licence.txt
Enroth readme.txt
Enroth spoiler.txt
Enroth story.txt

All files merged in a single file:

Enroth map_readme.txt
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-24, 02:52

Unknown_Hero wrote:

An example with Enroth.mp2:

[Monster Yotta Pack]\[Playable maps]\[English]\[Succession Wars]\[L]\

Enroth.mp2

[Monster Yotta Pack]\[Playable maps]\[English]\[Succession Wars]\Map Files\

Enroth journal.txt
Enroth licence.txt
Enroth readme.txt
Enroth spoiler.txt
Enroth story.txt

All files merged in a single file:

Enroth map_readme.txt
Enroth is an "official map" (native map?.. :p), there is more than 1 map; one for each language localisation. So... Sometimes the map should be Enroth.ru.mp2 maybe? (English maps don't get the .en. as they are the "standard language" of maps...) But the double "." is good or not? Kind of, H2:ironfist may have a way to sort maps by language? And if so, how they more likely wants it to be done?

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-24, 06:48

@Unknown_Hero Do you change the names of a map files? It would be nice to have all the maps in a correct order when searching for a map.

Here are the maps that I was able to find on a polish working sites and from some already archived:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/254fmrx9hqynkvo/Maps%20from%20polish%20sites.7z?dl=0

Hmmm, it looks like most of them are in English, though Razz

I will also check some old cd's, but I rememeber, that their maps were of questionable quality Suspect

Here is another site with downloads, there is much interesting stuff (531 maps!):

http://homm.ucoz.ru/load/4-1

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-24, 07:43

@GodRage

Good idea for the precision about the language directly included in the file name for languages other than English. Very Happy
But the files must remain in their respective language folders.

I tried with Enroth.ru.mp2 and it works. Smile

I don't think it's necessary to include a map sorting system according to the language into Ironfist; it's so easy to select the desired maps before launching the program (a simple "copy and paste").

@Uhm

I think the file name should be changed to reflect the one that is displayed when the user loads the map into the game and into the editor.

An example:

Map_0127.MP2 displays "Lancelots quest" in the game selection window.

The file must be renamed "Lancelots quest.mp2".

Still thinking about this, and I need to make some tests.

I think since the MYP is supposed to provide everything that has been done for Heroes 2, the worst maps have to be available and located in a specific folder, even if named "Garbage". Razz
At least for the maps already created, the new maps submitted in the future (after the first version of the MYP) must first pass a "quality test" before being included in the MYP.

Thanks for the links, I will take a look. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-25, 15:03

Phew, I finally finished my list. The staircase was high. Very Happy

Here is the latest list of all Heroes 2 maps that I own.
Here is the list of all Heroes 2 maps that I own.

Maps that must be played as a campaign are not included (some yes).
The maps are not yet sorted. There are duplicates, they have the same name (and for some only the file extension is different), but they are supposed to be all different if only by size, at least that is what Windows indicates. Razz

There are also some maps in Russian downloaded from the site indicated by Uhm, I already owned all the others. Laughing

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Here's how I see things after some thought.

The MYP database will contain this information (for the time being):

MYP database:
 

Old MYP database:
 

I think it should be easy enough to generate a readme file for each map, when necessary, directly from the database.
In the same way, it should also be possible to generate the necessary "text" (and then copy and paste) to make posts about the maps directly from the database.
The same ones you make Uhm. Smile

The MYP tree will look like this:

MYP tree:
 

Old MYP tree:
 


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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-26, 00:25

Sounds like a good plan Wink Right now I would concentrate on segregating maps inside folders. We could start working on the database once it will be ready.

I've uploaded all the maps that I have had in my "maps" folder (without original). There are a few maps which I couldn't find in your collection Smile
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Inside there is also another folder with Russian maps from forum.heroesworld.ru

These maps are:
"Сила дракона" - "Power of the Dragon"
"Вторжение"
"Аrrow" - "Стрелка"

I didn't see them on your list.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-27, 01:50

Your maps have been integrated, thanks! Smile

By now, I will start by sorting the maps before anything else to have only one file per map, to start on a good basis.
It may take a little time. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-27, 04:51

I saw some french maps inside your list, so I hope you took all the packs available on Lands of Enroth Smile
I wish you good luck with this awesome idea Smile
And I think I will help later, when it will be time to check what map is in double.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-02-28, 21:42

@GodRage

All the packs available on Lands of Enroth have been integrated. Smile
I had editor crash problems with some of your reworked maps. I kept those working, for the others, we will see why they crash the editor later.
All tests were performed on Heroes 2 Gold English version (EDITOR2W.EXE ver 2.1 and HEROES2W.EXE ver 2.1) for Windows.

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All strictly identical files with different names have been sorted.
There are still duplicates, maps with a similar name, but their sizes are different. We will have to compare them more seriously later in the editor to see what are the differences and choose the most suitable.

GodRage wrote:
And I think I will help later, when it will be time to check what map is in double.

Any help is welcome, thank you for your "may be" future help on this point. Laughing

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Some maps in Russian are duplicates of other files. Some of these files crash the editor.
In the editor, the letters of the texts are replaced by dots ("..........") or by text in Russian.
All tests were performed on Heroes 2 Gold English version (EDITOR2W.EXE ver 2.1) for Windows.

Matching files:
 

Here is the latest list of all Heroes 2 maps that I own.

MYP database and MYP tree updated (see post above).

Now, I will make another pass for sorting. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-02, 18:31

The maps are ready to be listed!!! Very Happy

First post updated.
Any idea is welcome. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-03, 01:19

I can take W,X,Y,Z. Btw, did you include a maps from this packs?

http://www.homm2.com/downloads/maps

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-03, 02:12

@Uhm

Yes, all the packs from this site are already downloaded. Smile

First post updated. The link to the zip file is located inside the Choose the maps: section.

Have fun!!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-03, 09:56

I am wondering if it is actually neccessary to make such complex folder tree as we have now. We will have everything labeled in a base (at least I hope so Razz ), easy to find, so why do we need to make separate folders for SW, PoL (they've got also different extensions indeed), S, M, L, Xl maps? It shall be easier to find map when we just go to: [English]-> [Custom maps]. I am all the time putting sw maps to pol folder and vice versa Maybe something like this?:


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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-03, 20:48

I have no objection to that. You can consider it as validated and make the change.
Let's go with "[User made Scenarios]".
A simplification that works is always welcome. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-13, 09:30

Just to be sure...
Don't forget this one :
Uhm wrote:
I've downloaded it some time ago, but totally forgot about it Embarassed  Well, have fun, there should be plenty of good maps Smile

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahfxr6a8tP2FtRBl2MedIcAoWfJE
http://heroes2.forumactif.com/t293-homm2-map-archives#3848

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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-14, 06:40

@GodRage

Toutes ces cartes sont passées "à la moulinette". Smile
All these maps have been sorted and integrated. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The "Monster Yotta Pack" aka the "MYP" from the FoE   2017-03-14, 07:37

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@GodRage

Toutes ces cartes sont passées "à la moulinette". Smile
All these maps have been sorted and integrated. Smile

I didn't expect a french sentence, I tend to forget that you can speak french

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