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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-06-24, 02:51

Galaad wrote:
You're very welcome!
I've been thinking, why not try to gather more voters by posting about it in the HC thread?

Finally wrote a post on HC. Hopefully a lot of people will participate in the voting. Thanks for the advise Galaad Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-06-24, 12:13

Let's hope so. Smile
I bumped it to gather more attention. Scouting
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-06-27, 00:24

Middle Gate Knight
Tundara Sorceress
Vulcania Warlock
Sansobar Barbarian
Atlantium Sorceress
Baywatch Sorceress
Wildabar Barbarian
Fountainhead Wizard
Vertigo Warlock
Winterkill Barbarian
Nightshadow Necromancer
Sandcaster Dervish
Lakeside Sorceress
Olympus Wizard
Brindamoor Witch
Burlock Dervish
Xabran Barbarian
Dragadune Dervish
Alamar Warlock
Kalindra Witch
Blackfang Necromancer
Basenji Barbarian
Algary Warlock
Sorpigal Dervish
New Dawn Knight
Erliquin Wizard
Avone Wizard
Big Oak Sorceress
Hampshire Knight
Chandler Knight
South Mill Knight
Weed Patch Witch
Roc Haven Barbarian
Avalon Wizard
Antioch Dervish
Brownston Knight
Weddington Sorceress
Whittingham Wizard
Westfork Wizard
Hilltop Wizard
Yorksford Knight
Sherman Knight
Roscomon Dervish
Elk's Head Barbarian
Cathcart Dervish
Viper's Nest Witch
Pig's Eye Barbarian
Blacksford Necromancer
Burton Warlock
Blackburn Necromancer
Lankershire Knight
Lombard Wizard
Timberhill Sorceress
Fenton Wizard
Troy Knight
Forder Oaks Sorceress
Meramec Dervish
Quick Silver Wizard
Westmoor Witch
Willow Witch
Sheltemburg Knight
Corackston Warlock
Blackridge Necromancer
Pinehurst Sorceress
Woodhaven Sorceress
Hillstone Barbarian
Whiteshield Knight
Bloodreign Barbarian
Dragontooth Warlock
Greywind Wizard
Blackwind Necromancer
Portsmith Knight
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-06-28, 00:51

Thanks a lot tknoff87! I will add your vote to the tabel soon Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-08-11, 12:16

Here are my propositions, distributed evenly among the classes:

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2016-08-11, 21:17

Thank you very much Ellinger and welcome to the forums Smile I will add your vote to the tabel soon.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-10, 09:56

I thought it would be time to revive this little voting for all the new people who have gathered here recently.

The system is simple; below is a list of 72 town names from H2 and you just have to choose which of the 8 factions in H3SW (Knight, Sorceress, Wizard, Necromancer, Warlock, Barbarian, Witch or Dervish) you think it should belong to Smile

List of H2 town names:
 
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-10, 10:32

KNIGHT:
Middle Gate
Fountainhead
South Mill
Weddington
Whittingham
Yorksford
Cathcart
Lombard
Sheltemburg

SORCERESS:
Lakeside
Erliquin
Big Oak
Sherman
Roscomon
Elk's Head
Lankershire
Forder Oaks
Pinehurst

WIZARD:
Tundara
Atlantium
Kalindra
Basenji
Hampshire
Roc Haven
Hilltop
Timberhill
Whiteshield

NECROMANCER:
Winterkill
Nightshadow
Blackburn
Westmoor
Blackwind
Bloodreign
Greywind
Vulcania
Brindamoor

WARLOCK:
Baywatch
Burlock
Alamar
Sorpigal
Chandler
Fenton
Dragontooth
Portsmith
Blacksford

BARBARIAN:
Wildabar
Olympus
Antioch
Brownston
Westfork
Pig's Eye
Troy
Hillstone
Corackston

WITCH:
Vertigo
Blackfang
Weed Patch
Viper's Nest
Willow
Blackridge
Woodhaven
Burton
Quick Silver

DERVISH:
Sansobar
Sandcaster
Xabran
Dragadune
Avone
Avalon
Meramec
Algary
New Dawn
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 00:54

Thank you very much for your votes Ragoon. I advise everybody who want to give your input to H3SW to take part in the vote. I would like to see votes from robizeratul, AkuAkuIslands, Pitsu, Tibor0803, Steven Aus, Agar , Orzie and everone else if you would like Smile


I am happy to see such well thought votes for instance all votes on Alamar to Warlock, which is logical when the hero Alamar is well-known and a warlock himself. It seems not everybody knows about the more hidden references like those from the Might and Magic games. Sorpigal is for instance the starting town in MM1 and MM6 and Corack is a famous guardian which should point the votes for the "good" factions, maybe especially the Wizard faction. Also, Kalindra is a Wizard hero from HoMM II, but either people forgot about her or just think it should belong somewhere else. I am not to judge and the voting is all free and open, I just wanted to put it out there Smile


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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 01:08

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I am happy to see such well thought votes for instance all votes on Alamar to Warlock, which is logical when the hero Alamar is well-known and a warlock himself. It seems not everybody knows about the more hidden references like those from the Might and Magic games. Sorpigal is for instance the starting town in MM1 and MM6 and Corack is a famous guardian which should point the votes for the "good" factions, maybe especially the Wizard faction. Also, Kalindra is a Wizard hero from HoMM II, but either people forgot about her or just think it should belong somewhere else. I am not to judge and the voting is all free and open, I just wanted to put it out there Smile

I'm not really familiar with H2 lore/heroes, so my votes were not influenced by knowledge :p
Alamar name reminds me of evil mage.
Sorpigal reminds me of seagull or other bird (dont know why Very Happy)
Corack is cleary a barbarian brute for me
And Kalindra just sounds like a name for woman with magic powers :p

So I guess I wasn't really far from your references after all
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 01:23

Ragoon wrote:
I'm not really familiar with H2 lore/heroes, so my votes were not influenced by knowledge :p
Alamar name reminds me of evil mage.
Sorpigal reminds me of seagull or other bird (dont know why Very Happy)
Corack is cleary a barbarian brute for me
And Kalindra just sounds like a name for woman with magic powers :p

So I guess I wasn't really far from your references after all

Hahaha, exactly, you were quite close. Also, it must be fair enough if enough people don't catch the references, then they might just be placed where people think they sound like they should be Smile

(My inner voice just really hopes for Kalindra and Corackston for Wizard, Sheltemburg for Necromancer/Warlock and Sorpigal for Knight Very Happy )
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 08:05

Sir Albe wrote:
Also, Kalindra is a Wizard hero from HoMM II, but either people forgot about her or just think it should belong somewhere else.

Indeed, though Queen/Castle Kalindra is in Xeen and on some reason she associated to me first as a sorceress, but it has been a while from my last Xeen.

Anyway, a quick gut-feeling based stratification:
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 08:44

Thank you so much Pitsu. Clearly, I don't know it all either. I didn't know about the use of Kalindra outside of the HoMM games, so thanks for telling me. I will update the voting table soon Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-11, 23:36

From internet I could not find any hint that Kalindra was a sorceress, and perhaps wizard like in H2 is indeed a better choice. Shamefully low are the memories from early MM games and perhaps if played again, I would would relocate many towns to other factions.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-12, 00:41

Pitsu wrote:
From internet I could not find any hint that Kalindra was a sorceress, and perhaps wizard like in H2 is indeed a better choice. Shamefully low are the memories from early MM games and perhaps if played again, I would would relocate many towns to other factions.

You may change your vote if you want to Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-12, 02:46

Sir Albe wrote:

You may change your vote if you want to Smile

I'll keep the first associations that came into mind, but another list can be made with references to origin of the names. Talking of which isn't HoMM2 the oldest game in the world of Enroth? As it is older than MM6-8 it is missing the towns of the world as seen in MM games of the very same world, but uses town names from earlier MM games which belong to other worlds. NWC in contrary to Ubisoft did not have a bible with details written down and developed the lore and names in process and valued fun over continuity. Should ironfist and SW mods take the opportunity to update town names and bring MM6-8 town names to the mods?
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-12, 03:03

There exits such a list already Here. It is in Polish, but it is readable through Google translate. You can propose other names for the towns which we will then vote for after we handed out the 72 original names, so if you want some MM6-8 names to be in the mod just write them here and please state which faction they should be used for Smile

Edit: About Kalindra it states that it is both a castle and charterer from MM5 (and of course hero from HoMM II).
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Town Names   2017-05-12, 19:35

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Should ironfist and SW mods take the opportunity to update town names and bring MM6-8 town names to the mods?

Truth is, MM6 towns are going to be featured in our new campaigns due to the planned lore. Their names cannot be used in random singleplayer games because they have fixed locations. Blackshire/Dragonsand Desert is going to be featured in the Dervish campaign, Bootleg Bay area will be featured in the Witch campaign mainly, and Sweet Water will be destroyed by the Heretic forces where they also are going to defeat Roland.
Concerning the older names, all of them are retconned as of HoMM2 development, so names like Kalindra or Erliquin can be considered pure Enrothian. It's like small American towns named after great cities of Europe Smile

MM7-MM8 towns belong to Enroth, but they do belong to other continents, so they are barely useful unless someone will manage to create a MM7 or MM8-dedicated user map. Personally I dream about such feature thanks to the WoG functionality which would allow us to make a role-playing strategy map with tons of special effects Smile

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