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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-08, 19:31

I am very grateful you find it useful. I actually found it rather entertaining to make those, so it wasn't that hard. You can always tell me if we need similar test and I will gladly do it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-09, 04:11

The new style of H2 secondary skill set looks much better than the Heroes 3 look-a-like H2 ones. The new elemental magic secondary skills are just fit perfectly imo.

The navigation ones also enough good, dunno what to change. Technically we have a shinier and shinier steering wheel between basic, advanced and expert with added branches.


The armory skill is still far from ready, of course depends on which one of those will you use. I'm thinking about re-stylizing the H3 armory isn't right, it should look totally different like the ones, which once changed. (The new elemental secondary skills are the only honorable mentions sorry.)

The diplomacy skill style from Dr Slash wouldn't be so bad, but the "advanced" ragged scroll doesn't fit it's skill, while the basic and expert ones look much better. Something must be changed with the advanced one. I think making it to be silverish won't do the trick, since pergaments are most likely made of bamboo or wood than silver or diamond. I know it's impossible to use the old H2 styled diplomacy skill image in a 44x44 size frame, so these are the ones similar to the H2 styled one the most this far.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 08:37

Current situation with the Secondary Skills.

Navigation & Water Magic
Air Magic
Earth Magic
Fire Magic
Archery
Eagle Eye
Learning
Offense
Intellect
Sorcery
Scouting
Necromancy
Luck
Pathfinding
Leadership
Estates or Earnings (more info on the skill name later)
Ballistics
Artillery
First Aid
Logistics
Scholar
Magic Resistance
Wisdom
Defense
Diplomacy

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 09:27

Looks amazing. I especially like the Logistics and Scholar skills. They look perfectly H2 styled. Did you see the alternative versions of the Expert Luck and Expert Archery skill I made? I thought the straight arrow looked too long compared to the diagonal one, but it might just be my taste.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 10:17

Are you going to change the order of the diplomacy icons - I think what was meant was having the ragged one as Basic, the closed scroll as Advanced and the full scroll as Expert.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 21:57

Steven Aus wrote:
Are you going to change the order of the diplomacy icons - I think what was meant was having the ragged one as Basic, the closed scroll as Advanced and the full scroll as Expert.
We already have got it fixed, so no worries.



Sir Albe wrote:
Looks amazing. I especially like the Logistics and Scholar skills. They look perfectly H2 styled. Did you see the alternative versions of the Expert Luck and Expert Archery skill I made? I thought the straight arrow looked too long compared to the diagonal one, but it might just be my taste.

Lol, they are the ones which are maximum far from completion. But anyway, we've got a nice progress recently thanks to the new Russian team member.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 22:53

Well, they look better than some of the other new ones imo, but what do you think of the alternative version of the Expert Archery skill?
Current version:

Alternative version:
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-13, 23:13

What I think of is a complete revamp of the Archery skill, because these arrows don't look perfect with a placement like that. But that's for later.
Yes, we can adjust the arrow length for v0.8 as you suggest.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-14, 07:41

Progress with the Offense skill:


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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-14, 10:01

Tactics.




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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-25, 04:55

Current progress with the revised skill icons.


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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-30, 06:35

Current situation with the skill icons. Mysticism is on me; many things are raw currently, but we don't have much time for fixing.


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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-30, 07:38

Looking good. The only one I am bit uncertain about is "Offense". It seems too modern with the double edged axe. Why not a sword? Anyway, I see only "Leadership" and "Luck" is absent. Are they being fixed? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-30, 07:56

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The only one I am bit uncertain about is "Offense". It seems too modern with the double edged axe.
Just check Heroes 2 Primary Skill icon. Smile

For swords it's really hard to make really distinguishable weapons.

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Anyway, I see only "Leadership" and "Luck" is absent. Are they being fixed?
Oh damn, I forgot about it. But yeah, I'll spend some time fixing it, then.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-30, 08:18

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The only one I am bit uncertain about is "Offense". It seems too modern with the double edged axe.
Just check Heroes 2 Primary Skill icon. Smile

For swords it's really hard to make really distinguishable weapons.


Stupid me... Very Happy Well, is the Leadership skill staying as the H3 sprite (Three horns) or do we combine it with the H2 one (Flag) somehow?
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-30, 08:19

H3-ish for now, we don't have time. But ideally, we should create our new concepts instead of H3 ones. We already have some drafts, I just don't have time to develop them.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-10-31, 00:02

Good progress
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-03, 07:50

Something at nightfall ..
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-03, 07:52

Approved for v0.8. Simply because I love the 5th Element movie and the Allods (Rage of Mages) game. lol

Gonna make some adjustments though.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-03, 08:51

Sorry to ask, but what skill does that shield represent? We already have a defense skill by Dr Slash as far as I know.

EDIT: Oh wait... It is the resistance skill, right? In that case it is great Smile I completely forgot about it.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-03, 10:39

Something like that. Maybe not a good idea to be. Advanced versions come up complicated.
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-04, 06:08

After the second thought, I guess we can leave your shield for a new artifact which gains additional magic resistance. It's too hard to develop 3 skill levels for this concept.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-05, 13:12

What about something like that for resistance? (with better graphics, obviously)
I just came up with the concept
It seems a simple concept with intuitive progression (1 triangle, 2 and 3)
It is also easily associated with magic and protection from it
But it obviously needs a good artist, colour changes, etc.
Lightning inside just represents magic, but can be changed or removed as well.

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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-06, 01:17

It could be used to Sorsery, I think)
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PostSubject: Re: H3SW: Secondary and Primary skill graphics   2015-11-06, 08:06

I don't know for either to be honest. Looking at this picture, we can't get a clear idea about the skill it represents, which is a 100% sign that something is wrong.

We have got another draft for Sorcery, by the way.

For now we are leaving old Kivo's conversion of H3 shield with lightning bolts, it will work fine. Later on for v0.9 we will be able to replace some more assets; right now we are lacking time.

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