H3SW: General Graphics discussion

Well, it was worth a try...

This looks good ! sure it needs some work but you know your stuff!

Anyway...this got me really worried...I hope you don't plan on remaking every castle for the 0.8 release,that would take forever. I remember Orzie's explanation here: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=38439&PID=1327286#focus .

As a fan I would prefer faster updates in smaller bits. Releasing a new version once every 4-8 months would be much better for us fans,even if the content is more limited...It might feel better for you guys to release things with a "bang" , but for me at least the other option is better.

And it might be better for overall player numbers. I am sure many visited the forum here or on heroescommunity, saw that there is no new updates, and left...A few even forgot about it. Making things more regular would increase popularity.

only my opinion though, and I was there refreshing the page last year waiting for the update, but seeing how hard you guys work I have accepted the wait, no matter how long...other people are not like me.

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Anyway...this got me really worried...I hope you don't plan on remaking every castle for the 0.8 release,that would take forever.

No, this is my personal initiative for the sake of interest.

ah OK, good to know!

I wonder what the original people that made H2 think...SW is doing so well with passionate people many years after the release of the original game...they must feel proud!

Looks good I feel that things are getting warmer and warmer Will we release v0.9 instead of v0.8?

About Knight: Isn't that three pure white buildings is kinda boring?
Why don't use stone basement from first screen, something like this: https://pp.vk.me/c636519/v636519108/148f0/z7lX2tUasRg.jpg (sorry, madskills and forgot about non-facade basement right in the darkness)

W.ell, maybe.

Agar wrote:

Well, it was worth a try...

It definitely was. Do you have a plan how to remove the blur? Can you actually tell me which elements there are re-made by you, and which come from classics?

I hope you still have source files for the Satyr dwelling you once sent me. I do have only a rendered version.

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Can you actually tell me which elements there are re-made by you, and which come from classics?

In short, just put PSD in dropbox

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Do you have a plan how to remove the blur?

On road? I think it is better to manually redraw if sundry)

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I hope you still have source files for the Satyr dwelling you once sent me.

Yes of course.

Orzie wrote:

As you like. The town hall for the Sorceress, however, can be considered done, for it is made of a Tavern.
Concerning other towns, I would rather suggest to finish the Dervish screen, because there is not too much to do (in comparison) and we really need it. Try to reproduce that grainy texture you once made for the castle, I loved it so much.

Maybe so (Yes, I decided to simplify a little something). A more honest way. And without color burnout. Or whatever it's called.

I just leave them here...



It looks like both required brightness amplification, but I have missed it.

Agar wrote:

Maybe so (Yes, I decided to simplify a little something). A more honest way. And without color burnout. Or whatever it's called.

Very nice solution. I love the towers absolutely, I think you've nailed it this time.

BoseDrache wrote:

I just leave them here...



It looks like both required brightness amplification, but I have missed it.

Hell yes, these definitely count. Thank you man, I'm downloading them all.

So I have some questions about...

That's just left/right cropped and then scaled portraits.
Want to process them all.

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Are these ok in terms of left/right positioning and face size? Especially, Drakonia.

Orzie, once long time ago you've said something like: "We can also move these women in hoods to Sorceress class but it would be no good to both Dervish and Sorceress classes".
Eee... hm... I doubt they wear any hoods.

What colours are for Martina? I insist on brown hair, brown eyes and red or black dress. (The beloved by PoL artists coloured light is so coloured)

I think the current positions are tolerable. Still, some exceptions can exist if we speak about native graphics. The positioning rules should apply to new portraits, preferably.

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Orzie, once long time ago you've said something like: "We can also move these women in hoods to Sorceress class but it would be no good to both Dervish and Sorceress classes".
Eee... hm... I doubt they wear any hoods.

Hah, well, probably it's hair. I never looked much on PoL portraits.

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What colours are for Martina? I insist on brown hair, brown eyes and red or black dress. (The beloved by PoL artists coloured light is so coloured)

Thing is, if you put "more standard/realistic" colors for hair, the character may lose the originality and the hero roster will thus suffer. We don't have many redheaded heroines, and this may result in a huge loss. The background, however, may be later replaced to a something more peculiar than simple PoL clouds which are present for every portrait this game brings in H2.

Yet, you are still free to make a comparison of 2 possible options for the hair color.

I also thought the female haircuts were hoods

Warlock's lineup, for the v0.8 release.

Here is current progress on portraits. Some Heroes are reserved for a team members, so they are going to be exchanged. Ironfist coat of arms is replacing untouched heroes from PoL expansion.

SW team, please let me know if you think that there're better alternatives or improved versions of shown portraits. You can check "graphics/heroes/hero portraits" folder in Dropbox.

Knight


Sorceress


Wizard


Warlock


Barbarian


Necromacer


Dervish


Witch


Various


Some portraits are going to stay a secret

I see you put this updated version of the Anubite hero for the release. Why not post it here first? The new background looks very good
Some lighting fixes for the face may be necessary though.

Pirate outpost may be.

Why not. Yet, it can have a jolly roger on top.

It had to be in the theme of dwellings, made a mistake. On top you can put а players flag.

(source/13th try/sketch/sketch)

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Versions with simplified hair and with grotesque eyes. I don't like them though.


The portrait will be really better with another background. Less bright and more meaningful one.

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Well, I tried to make a new portrait too...
Based on photos of Buryatia/Mongolia.

Guess what? All terrains are repacked, minimap fixed!



I always thought that Martina's hair is red. Well, I've checked it and it's brown indeed... I like the third variant most. Still, I think red isn't bad, so I've tried to fuse dark red hair from the raw varsion and face from the third try.



I don't know what to think about Buryat... His face is too nice, I would say he should look like dark, powerful witch doctor, master of distorted primary magic

Uhm wrote:

Guess what? All terrains repacked, minimap fixed!

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That is amazing!!! I been waiting for that so long and now it is done! Great job guys, the minimap looks fantastic

Uhm wrote:

I don't know what to think about Buryat... His face is too nice, I would say he should look like dark, powerful witch doctor, master of distorted primary magic

Didn't intend to shift him evil, just more serious.
Now, less peasant-like simplicity... and surprisingly, more close to a source photo of a real greater shaman.

If he is still absolutely unacceptable, I should surrender and abandon this work.