H3SW General Discussion

Orzie wrote:

Well, we need to do something with those frames on the hero army panel.

Agreed it's probably the only thing that seems a bit off in my opinion. That white frame. Maybe it could just be removed?

Great work on all other ends though!! Simply can't wait.

Presenting the 4 map formats named after the game titles!

As you may have already guessed, HoMM1: A Strategic Quest, HoMM2: The Succession Wars, and HoMM3: The Shadow of Death map formats are reserved for the conversions of the classic maps which will be playable under "new conditions" in HoMM2 atmosphere.

However, the 4th map format with a Dragon's head (those who played Might&Magic may very well recognize it thanks to Larry Elmore and New World Computing) is named in a little different way: "The Mandate of Heaven", and this is not a coincidence! This is no less than a teaser of new maps, new campaigns and new storyline dedicated to Enroth!

More updates presumably coming after October, 28th. I hope to join the more or less full-scale work at that time, guys.

Poor you. You haven't got the 95 maps that have already been fixed and are ready to play You will be happy to see all the improvement Uhm and I made that last months

I needed to show all 4 formats in one picture, if you speak about the number of maps.

Still, awesome news! Can't wait to see all of the maps when I will finally find time to update to Win7 or higher.

I know, but I guess you still will be happy to discover it all

I would recommend Win 7 - I don't like neither 8 or 10.

YES!!  

Sir Albe wrote:

I would recommend Win 7 - I don't like neither 8 or 10.

Seconded, Win7 Pro or Ultimate is the latest good Windows. 8 and 8.1 are complete crap and 10 is a spyware. Oh, and there is ads in the start menu.

Spoiler:

I am signing with both hands. XP is the best windows so far, 7 is just updated XP , eight is terribly unintuitive and annoiying and 10... well, let's say corporations already know to much about me

Probably silly question, but in mod we will get upgrades for some units that can't be upgraded in original?
It be good too have ability upgrade pesants or promoute crusaders for heroes (like it was in MM6, heroes ot heroes, but name of the unit) because in original Knight Castle are pretty weak
Maybe allow that upgrades with some ultimate artifacts

Rogues and Medusas will be upgradeable as a part of the new faction - dervish.

Nomads might be upgradeable later too, but that's for future releases.

My anim

Not every classic H2 unit is designed to be upgradeable. You can notice that simple animals and self-conscious beasts don't have upgrades, for example. The only exception is made for the Dragons, but they have a special place in Heroes 2, which is also noticeable when you read the entering message of the Dragon City.

Sometimes new upgrades can take place, but that decision must be made pretty carefully. Currently the only possible option is the upgrade of the Peasant in future, but it also doesn't feel necessary.

The Rogue upgrade for the Dervish by Ragoon was an exception to the rule for level 1 creatures, but it had a purpose - adjusting the Rogues in that way so they fit more to the desert setting. Same for the Medusa Queen which fits to the lineup gamma much more.

Ragoon wrote:

Rogues and Medusas will be upgradeable as a part of the new faction - dervish.

Cool animation and units! Great idea to make upgraded medusas with bow like in heroes 3

Orzie wrote:

Not every classic H2 unit is designed to be upgradeable.

Yep, I understand, I jest said about castle, because the had weakes max tier unit and weakest 1 tier unit, lol

Orzie wrote:

Currently the only possible option is the upgrade of the Peasant in future, but it also doesn't feel necessary.

I founded this pic in internet, this maded for this mod or it just random picture from someone?

Zadr wrote:

I founded this pic in internet, this maded for this mod or it just random picture from someone?

It is old concept art from 2011 by our dear former Team Leader Kivo, so it is official in some way, buy also very old

This is latest piece I think, but it will not be a part of 0.8v.

Brute:


Team - feel free to delete this post if you think I shouldn't publish it :v



PS Lizardman project file is in dropbox folder
PS2 Rest of the animations can be seen here

Its fun to see beta/unfinished content! Dont think theres anything wrong with that so thanks for sharing :d

I am working on a custom map and I tried to edit stuff but im no good :d If you havr any unfiniahed grapgics that you dont care about you could upload them hete, maybe make a thread called "unfinished content", maybe it will inspire others to finish it...

Would like that, but if you dont want to share it hete, would appreciate a PM...

Anyway, I thank you for sharing!

Feel free to use those, tried to make ruined cathedral and dwarven stone/wooden hut :p
Also 2 creatures, shaman and pyromancer from dark souls

IMG:

Thank you!

You should really maje a thread and dump this stuff... things have been going slowly but who knows, people join all the time and inspiration is always good :d

Ragoon wrote:

This is latest piece I think, but it will not be a part of 0.8v.

Brute:


Team - feel free to delete this post if you think I shouldn't publish it :v



PS Lizardman project file is in dropbox folder
PS2 Rest of the animations can be seen here

Yeah, that was my design and the hypothetical Peasant upgrade will look more or less like this. Maces are underrated in Heroes 2, so I decided to give them a chance

The most possible name for this creature is Conscript. Brute was an old name from the old version and it didn't really fit in my opinion.

Militia/militiaman can be an option, like pestant upgrade in warcraft 3

A chainmail for every peasant. We're talking about a severe cost increase I assume?
Will the conscript/brute be on par with the skeleton warrior? I can't seem to find this info.

In the 0.8 version there will be no peasant upgrade. After that... who knows

buffkaz wrote:

A chainmail for every peasant. We're talking about a severe cost increase I assume?
Will the conscript/brute be on par with the skeleton warrior? I can't seem to find this info.

Level 1 upgrades are undesirable. Heroes 2 didn't have any, and there might be a special idea behind this fact. Like I said though, the Rogue upgrade in H3SW has a deeper purpose than simply adding for the sake of adding.

There may be and ultimate artifact, that allow you to upgrade first and max tier units in city you bring it
Like in Knight town Pesants to Conscript, Champion to Hero
In Sorceress town Sprites to Killer Sprites, Phoniex to.. Firebird, whatever
In Necromancer town Sceletons to Skeleton Warriors, Bone Dragons to.. dunno, Toxic Dragons or Ghost Dragons
In Warlock town Centaurs to Centaur Captians, Black Dragons to Gold Dragons (or instead buff the Hydra to Great Hydra, because black dragons already double upgrade. Or allow make black dragons only with artifact, and without him only red dragons and great hydra)
In Wizard town Halfings to something, Titans to Noble Titans or Suprime Titans
In Barbarian town Goblin to Goblin Shaman/Goblin King, Cyclopus to Cyclopus Fighter/Warrior

It might be a good idea as a standalone mod, but not for succesion wars, Orzie already said that we dont want to add anything for the sake of adding and you just brought us twelve of these without any thought or reason behind it. Like "it would be cool". Yeah, it probably would. But it's not what we wish to acomplish here. There are enough creatures in need of animating already, no need for new ones, at least for now (wait for heretic faction :p)

i have an idea for the peasant: cannonfodder
this ability makes peasants a priority target. they get shot before your good units.

I would rather call the upgraded Peasants as Mercenaries. I guess it fits to the former Peasants cause in history, Peasants were introduced as Mercenaries who get paid for their fight against the enemy armies till death for being victorius and make their country a peaceful place again.

Hey, Orzie! What is the status of the project's progress? What things are left on the to do list? Heroes3wog.net announced multiple times that the new beta version of the SW mod is about to release.